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  Are J.W's obsesed with their statis??

  by karter in

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  i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..

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  Ha ! No way I'll ever show up at a hall with an Ipad ! Simplicity rules.

  Look at ME I have an ipad ! Personal choices, not for me. I really should not be judging though.
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  Are J.W's obsesed with their statis??

  by karter in

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  i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..

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  Cool thanks Millie, I love your Avatar ! If I make it into the new system I would like to build a few. That and machine the governors that control the speed of the equipment inside. I was orphaned, explains a lot. Jehovah is my dad now. Am a small business owner, no staff or family in JW at all, I'm in on my own. JW's gave me my bible knowledge, I started from nothing.

  Ever see the 1985 movie 'Witness' with Harrison Ford, that's how I'd like to live.
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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  Apognophos 5 months ago

  Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, and the reason why all the JWs that are single seem unattractive is that their JW essense is to you, (or whoever) just unattractive! Not about looks, but about whether a whole person 'attracts' another person. It is easy to see the "pretty" in a person who is unavailable. Most of us can observe the pretty face and move on, dismissing them. When a person meets a prospective mate, 'attractive'is about a lot more than looks.

  JWs don't like JWs. They don't want to be married to one. They may not even like themselves. They probably think they are unworthy of anyone as good as they want in anycase. If the brothers you know are not seeeing any attractive single sisters, it is because they simply don't want to be married to a JW. Objectively, there are a lot of pretty single JW women. And men. And froggy ones, too. But what sane person wants to marry into that mess?

  A pretty,yet pious JW is kind of like a frosted turd. And while we often make wrong decisions with marriage mates, most have SOME instincts for survival. Being a JW destroys the sense of self and destroys our trust and faith in others to have anything good in them, either. It is the guilty folks that suspect others of dishonesty the most. Same principle applies. NOt about actual guilt, but the sense that we are just unworthy and undeserving of anything good. You get told that enough, you believe it.

  For the first time since I've joined this forum, I'm quoting the entirety of someone else's post. JWdaughter said something profound here that I don't want overlooked. I've known a ton of pretty, single, spiritual sisters in my time as a Witness -- some incredibly beautiful -- and I never desired to get to know any of them. I didn't know why. I just felt like it would be a really bad idea to get married for some reason. Since marriages are forever in JW Land (unless adultery occurs), it would mean a commitment that I couldn't take back, and something told me that this would be a huge mistake, no matter who I married. I told myself that the reason I resisted the idea of commitment was that, as an imperfect human, I couldn't be sure that I would make a good choice in finding a mate that I would then be stuck with for an infinite amount of time in the new system.

  Looking back, things are finally becoming clear for me. I understand now that the one attribute all these girls had in common which made them undesirable was the very thing I thought I admired in them: their spirituality. If they hadn't been sincere about the religion then I would not have respected them, because I hate two-faced people. So yes, I respected these sisters for taking the religion seriously and for dressing modestly and giving good talks, etc.... but they all just seemed eminently unmarriageable. I didn't know why until now. I think one part of it was JWdaughter's suggestion that I just felt unworthy to be with anyone that I would actually want as a marriage mate. I also think it's because, if I married a Witness, I would have been committing to not just her, but the religion, and there was a little voice in my head warning me not to.

  Great post above, and now it's a four fold cord : you, your wife, Jehovah and Big Daddy Government. No thanks !! Never wanted children anyhow, being single is how I stay safe. I'll wait it out a few more years and find someone at least a decade younger.
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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
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  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  Great thread am enjoying it ! Am somewhat of a MGTOW so this is fun reading. It was once alluded to in the hall during comments that there was a eunuch in the hall ( me ) I WAS NOT VERY PLEASED to sas the least. I have my reasons for having stayed single, but am open or marriage if ever the right one comes along. In my early fifties I have less to loose as my assets are mine earned by me ( cannot be divorced out of my home and savings )
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  Are J.W's obsesed with their statis??

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..

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  " FayeDunaway 25 minutes ago

  Introvert WHY do you want back in? Look around first, try other options " Faye, I have an open mind. I grew up catholic and I hated everything about it. No matter where you go people will be petty, selfish, jealous, manipulative, status seeking etc. People lower down on the social scale have a special place in my heart, I greet everyone the same from the welfare bum to CEO's. Many people in the org are sick and need hope. The Kingdom basics just make plain common sense ( to me ) as I'm simple. Many things I don't like, I can roll with it for now and am hoping there will be improvements. I had some great friends I let go when I got in, they didn't hold it against me and am working on re establishing these friendships. In our out no difference to me any longer.

  I gave you a like
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  Are J.W's obsesed with their statis??

  by karter in

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  i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..

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  I see it all the time and it makes me sick ! I'm getting back in and no way I want any kind of position. The guy I studied with was a pushy elder, he finally got deleted. I hope he learns from it, he's now back as an MS but I can still detect some attitude. Jehovah does not always use the best, he uses those that are available, thus a very imperfect org.

  I can live with that, but my days of being manipulated are done
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  Oh dear...

  by GodZoo in

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  they should really consider keeping these signs out of reach when refurbing their halls... .

  http://s24.postimg.org/5emk2ogro/screen_shot_2015_05_04_at_15_19_55.jpg.

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  Knuckle sandwich to whoever wrote it ! BOOM
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  Oh dear...

  by GodZoo in

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  they should really consider keeping these signs out of reach when refurbing their halls... .

  http://s24.postimg.org/5emk2ogro/screen_shot_2015_05_04_at_15_19_55.jpg.

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  Who ever wrote it can't spell. Just saying
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  Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?

  by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere in

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  with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.

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  the topic pretty much says everything..

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  " I gave the public talk today!

  We focused on Jesus, Sermon on the Mount, Love and NOT being a Rule-making-pharisee. Instead of worrying about the works of others, focusing on your inner person.

  You guys would be amazed at the number of "marginalized" members of the congregation who came up to us afterwords to say how refreshing the talk was. All I did was read what Jesus actually said ! "

  Cool bro, that's great thanks !

  As for the older Bethel stories, stuff like this happens in almost all industrial settings. Where you have men, production machinery and supervisors you WILL HAVE ISSUES no mater what. I was naïve in thinking otherwise !! I've worked on some hall builds and I could of slugged some guys, but I'm not always right nor in line either. Rafter in the eye.
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  Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?

  by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere in

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  with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.

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  Presently inactive and getting ready to get back in but at my own pace !

  I had a major burn out / depression due to the hectic pace of running a business and

  trying to please everyone but myself. Got in on my own at 38 YO, now 50+ single.

  I'll do what I can, no interest at all in position nor social status, it is what it is.

  There are some things I don't understand nor agree with, this does not prevent me from worship.

  The Bethel stories here from the 70's and 80's are a hoot ! Never had any desire to visit NY, probably never will.

  That and the Proclaimer's book, just the thought of it is repulsive to me.

  Peace !